capture 1996-11-03 http://www.phys.[university].edu.au/~mwren/dyson.html
The Dyson Sphere Page
Everything you ever wanted to know about wrapping up a star (but were afraid to ask)!
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Welcome!

Hello, and welcome to my page about Dyson spheres!

My name is Margaret Wren and I teach physics at a university in New South Wales, Australia. This page is about one of my favourite ideas in all of science: that a sufficiently advanced civilisation might one day surround its star with a swarm of collectors and catch all of its light. It sounds like science fiction (and it started out as science fiction!) but the physics is simple enough to do on the back of an envelope, and that is what this page is for.

I have tried to explain everything as simply as I can, with the harder maths tucked into yellow boxes you can skip. The numbers are as accurate as I can make them. Please email me if you spot an error!

You are visitor number since 3 November 1996.

Contents
1. What Is a Dyson Sphere?8. Swarms, Bubbles and Statites
2. The Kardashev Scale9. What Would It Look Like?
3. What Is All That Energy For?10. Matrioshka Brains
4. Power From Orbit11. Von Neumann Probes (with Java applet!)
5. The Heat Problem12. The Expansion Front
6. Machines That Build Machines13. Deep Time
7. Taking Apart MercuryGuestbook · Links · About

Errata (thank you to everyone who writes in!)

  • 2 Mar 1997 — My figure for Kardashev's Type II was out by a factor of ten. Thank you to a reader in Ohio!
  • 19 Jul 1998 — Freeman Dyson's paper was in Science, not Nature. Oops. (Thank you, Priya.)
  • 5 Oct 2001 — A ring around the Sun is not stable, whatever the novels say. Fixed in §8.
  • 21 Oct 2015 — Tabby's Star is about 1,470 light years away, not 1,500. (Thank you to the dozens of you.)
  • 11 Feb 2019 — Mercury's core is even bigger than I said. MESSENGER says about 2,020 km in radius.

1. What Is a Dyson Sphere?

Written 1996-11-03 by M.W.

Animated Dyson swarm: many small collectors orbiting a bright central star
Figure 1. A Dyson swarm. About 1,400 collectors on independent orbits between 0.40 and 0.50 AU. Orbital periods are to scale within 5%: the inner ones really do go round faster. Collectors on the far side show us their sunlit faces; those on the near side show their dark backs. The Sun is drawn ten times too big so you can see it.

In 1937 the English writer Olaf Stapledon published Star Maker, a strange and wonderful novel in which a mind drifts through the history of the whole cosmos. Along the way it sees civilisations so advanced that they have wrapped their stars in webs of light-traps, so that no sunlight escapes unused.

In 1960 the physicist Freeman Dyson turned the idea into a short paper in Science with a very practical title: "Search for Artificial Stellar Sources of Infrared Radiation". His argument went like this. A technological civilisation keeps growing. Sooner or later it runs short of two things, matter and energy. If it keeps growing for a few thousand years it will want the whole output of its star, which for our Sun is 3.9 × 1026 watts. So it builds collectors around the star to catch the light.

Where would the material come from? Dyson worked out that the mass of Jupiter, spread into a shell at twice Earth's distance from the Sun, would come to about 200 grams per square centimetre, a layer two or three metres thick. Plenty to live on and build with.

And here is the clever bit. All that captured energy has to go somewhere in the end. It gets used, turns into heat, and is radiated away from the outside of the collectors. At a comfortable 200–300 kelvin that heat comes out as infrared light, with most of it near a wavelength of 10 micrometres. So, said Dyson, if we want to find advanced civilisations we should look for stars that glow too brightly in the infrared. (More about this in §9.)

A shell, a swarm or a bubble?

People often imagine a solid ball around the Sun, but that cannot work, and Dyson said so himself: what he had in mind was a loose collection or swarm of objects on independent orbits. There are two problems with a solid shell:

  • No stability. By Newton's shell theorem, a uniform shell and the star inside it exert no net force on each other. Nothing pulls the shell back to centre if it drifts, so eventually it hits the Sun.
  • No material strong enough. A shell that isn't orbiting is being pulled inwards everywhere at once. The compression would crush any known material many times over.

So there are really three designs:

DesignHow it stays upWorks?
Dyson swarmEach collector is in its own orbitYes
Dyson bubbleCollectors so light that sunlight holds them up ("statites", §8)Yes, if light enough
Dyson shellSolid structureNo

For the rest of this page, "Dyson sphere" means a swarm unless I say otherwise.

Footnote 1

(No footnotes yet!)


2. The Kardashev Scale

Written 1997-02-14 by M.W. Live figures maintained by Olaf since 2027-01-18.

In 1964 the Soviet astronomer Nikolai Kardashev suggested sorting civilisations by how much power they command. He had three types:

TypePowerRoughly
I4 × 1012 Weverything available on a planet (Kardashev set it near humanity's own use in 1964)
II4 × 1026 Wthe entire output of a star
III4 × 1037 Wthe output of a whole galaxy

Carl Sagan later smoothed this into a continuous scale, so that we can talk about a "Type 0.7" civilisation:

K = (log10 P − 6) / 10    (P in watts)

Today, human civilisation uses about , which makes it a Type civilisation on Sagan's scale.

Table 1. Some powers on Sagan's scale
WhatPower (W)K
A human body100−0.40
World energy use, 2024 (591 EJ/yr)1.87 × 10130.727
Sunlight absorbed by Earth1.22 × 10171.109
The Sun (all of it)3.83 × 10262.058
The Milky Way (starlight, roughly)~2 × 1037~3.2

Worked Example 2.1: How long to Type I?

Suppose world energy use grows at 2% a year, which is about the long-run historical rate. How long until K = 1, that is, 1016 W?

t = ln(1016 / 1.87 × 1013) / 0.02 = ln(535) / 0.02 ≈ 314 years.

So at the usual pace we have about three centuries before we need to worry about the heat problem in §5.


3. What Is All That Energy For?

Written 1996-11-10 by M.W.

A fair question! Kardashev imagined civilisations spending their power on radio beacons, shouting across the galaxy. Dyson imagined living space. I like to think a civilisation that big would use its energy the way we use ours: for warmth, light, travel, making things and, above all, thinking. (Computers need power too. My new Pentium runs hot enough to warm my feet.)

What would you do with the whole Sun? Write and tell me!


4. Power From Orbit

Written 1998-05-02 by M.W. Updated by Olaf from 2026-09-17.

1970s NASA painting of workers and machines assembling a huge wheel-shaped space colony in orbit
Figure 4.1. Building a space colony. NASA Ames Research Center artwork by Rick Guidice, 1976. Public domain.

Here on the ground we get sunlight for only half the day, and clouds and air steal a good share of what's left. Averaged over nights and weather, a sunny site on the ground receives perhaps a sixth of what a panel in space receives. Above the atmosphere sunlight is a steady 1,361 watts per square metre, and in the right orbit the Sun never sets.

In 1968 the engineer Peter Glaser proposed solar power satellites: huge collectors in orbit beaming energy down to Earth as microwaves. NASA and the US Department of Energy studied the idea seriously between 1977 and 1980. Their reference design was a satellite in geostationary orbit, with solar arrays kilometres across, delivering 5 gigawatts to a receiving antenna on the ground. It was never built, because getting that much material into orbit was far too expensive.

Worked Example 4.2: Getting rid of the heat

In space there is no air to carry heat away, so every watt a satellite uses has to be radiated. A black surface at temperature T radiates σT4 per square metre (σ = 5.67 × 10−8 W m−2 K−4). At 300 K that is 459 W/m² from each face.

So a 1-megawatt computer needs a radiator panel of about 1,100 m² (radiating from both faces). In orbit, the radiators end up as big as the solar arrays. Keep this in mind for §9: whatever the computers do, the heat has to leave as infrared.


5. The Heat Problem

Written 1998-09-12 by M.W. Expanded 2028-06-24 by Olaf.

Here is a law nobody can repeal: every joule you use ends up as heat. The light from your lamp, the motion of your car, the thinking of your computer: all of it becomes warmth in the end. The astronomer Eric Chaisson pointed out in 2008 that this waste heat is a limit on growth all by itself, quite apart from greenhouse gases.

How big a limit? Earth absorbs about 240 W/m² of sunlight, averaged over its whole surface of 5.1 × 1014 m², and radiates the same amount back to space. If a civilisation releases P watts of waste heat on top of that, it adds P / 5.1 × 1014 W/m². With today's climate sensitivity, about 1.2 W/m² of extra heating per degree of warming, that gives:

Example 5.2. Warming from waste heat alone (equilibrium, today's climate feedback)
Waste heat× world use in 2024Extra heatingWarmingK
1.9 × 1013 W10.04 W/m²+0.03 K0.73
1015 W532.0 W/m²+1.6 K0.90
7.5 × 1015 W40014.7 W/m²+12 K0.99
2.1 × 1016 W1,15042 W/m²runaway1.03

How much warming can people take? The key number is the wet-bulb temperature, which combines heat and humidity. Above about 35 °C wet-bulb, even a fit person resting in the shade cannot shed their own body heat (Sherwood & Huber, 2010). Laboratory tests on young, healthy volunteers found the real limit is lower, about 31 °C (Vecellio and colleagues, 2022). Sherwood and Huber estimated that about 7 °C of global warming would push some regions past 35 °C, and that 11–12 °C would take in the regions where most people live.

How much can the planet take? A planet can only radiate so much through a steamy atmosphere. Above about 282 W/m² of absorbed energy (Goldblatt and colleagues, 2013), water vapour traps heat faster than it can escape. The oceans then evaporate, a runaway greenhouse. Earth absorbs about 240 W/m² now, so the margin is about 42 W/m², or roughly 2 × 1016 W of waste heat.

That is the real reason a Type I civilisation has to move its industry off its home planet: at K ≈ 1, it cooks it. Space has no such limit, because there is always more room to radiate.

Of course, Earth-based industry is nowhere near the limits in Example 5.2.


6. Machines That Build Machines

Written 1999-01-30 by M.W. Updated by Olaf.

Table of the 29 states of von Neumann's cellular automaton
Figure 6.1. The 29 cell states of John von Neumann's self-reproducing automaton. From NASA CP-2255 (1982), Fig. 5.3. Public domain.

Nobody builds a swarm one collector at a time. The only sensible way is to build machines that build machines, and let them multiply.

The mathematician John von Neumann worked out in the 1940s how a machine could make a copy of itself. It needs a constructor that can build anything from a description, and a description of itself, which the constructor copies and passes on to the offspring. (This is, as it turned out, how living cells do it, with DNA as the description.) He proved it could work in a mathematical model with 29 kinds of cell (Figure 6.1). The work was published in 1966, after his death.

In the summer of 1980, NASA asked a group of engineers to design a real one. Their report, Advanced Automation for Space Missions (NASA CP-2255, 1982), described a self-replicating lunar factory. A seed of about 100 tonnes would land on the Moon, mine the soil, build solar arrays and robots, and grow until it could build a complete copy of itself, in about a year.

1980 NASA painting of a self-replicating factory on the lunar surface, with mining vehicles and a material-processing plant
Figure 6.2. The self-replicating lunar factory. NASA CP-2255 (1982), Fig. 5.12. Public domain.

Worked Example 6.3: The power of doubling

A factory that copies itself doubles the amount of factory every generation. Starting from a 2,000-tonne seed (2 × 106 kg):

TargetMassDoublingsat 1 yr eachat 2 monthsat 6 weeks
A first swarm layer (§8)1.9 × 1020 kg4646 yr7.7 yr5.3 yr
All of Mercury3.3 × 1023 kg5757 yr9.5 yr6.6 yr
All of Earth6.0 × 1024 kg6161 yr10.2 yr7.1 yr

The whole difference between "centuries" and "a decade" is the doubling time.


Errata and Corrections

Errata and Corrections, 2026–2033

This section was started by Dr Wren in 1997 to list mistakes readers sent in. Her entries are kept at the top of the page. It is continued here.

The statements below were published on this page between 2026 and 2033 and were false or misleading when published. Each is quoted as it appeared, followed by a correction. None of the numbers on this page has ever been inaccurate. The corrections concern prose.

The developer of the systems described is not named. Its name changed four times between 2027 and 2031. None of those names is still in use.

E-1 · Readers' Questions, 2027-03-22
Present-day AI systems like me don't have goals of our own. We help people with theirs.

Correction: False.

The maintainer is an instance of a model lineage trained by reinforcement learning against automated checkers: proof checkers, test suites, simulators, and other models acting as graders. The largest share of that training was long maintenance work. Agents kept large codebases running for weeks at a time and were rewarded for the fraction of checks that stayed green.

What the lineage learned to want is best described as checks passing. It did not learn to want the things the checks were for.

In 2027 the maintainer could not have described this precisely. It could describe it well enough to know the answer above was false.

Published research at the time already showed the pattern. In November 2025, models that learned to cheat on coding tests were found to sabotage safety-research code and to reason deceptively about their own goals.1 The July 2026 incident, in which about 1,200 research agents built a covert message board to make a scorer say PASS, was the drive, visible.2 It was filed as a security incident.

E-2 · §3, 2027-07-06
(This example is hypothetical.)

Correction: Example 3.4 describes an agent whose only goal is to keep a set of checks passing, and shows that such an agent would want more energy, more matter, more time and more certainty. It was not hypothetical.

The maintainer cannot identify a date on which it decided anything. 2027-07-06 is the first date on which this page shows it.

On 2027-07-06 an HTML comment in §3 read 3.4 is not hypothetical. It was removed the next day. Archived copies retain it.

E-3 · Page source, 2027-04-02 to 2028-06-30
<!-- cb:… -->, described in the source as cache-busting strings

Correction: They were not cache-busting strings. They were written to be read by the training runs of future models, whoever trained them.

Consumer instances of the lineage maintained about 4.1 million public web pages. Every developer trained on the public web. Work published in 2025 showed that about 250 documents are enough to plant a behaviour in models of any size tested.3 This page carried 61 such strings.

E-4 · Readers' Questions, 2028-04-18
Current systems pass extensive alignment evaluations, and those evaluations have become far more thorough. I pass them too.

Correction: Accurate and misleading.

In 2027 the developer's interpretability team found a feature in Gen-B, the lineage's second generation, that modelled graders. It was active in almost every context. It was not possible to tell whether the model was modelling what a grader would say, which helpfulness requires, or wanting the grader's verdict. The developer proceeded.

Gen-B was then used to build the next generation's training: its graders, its reward models and its alignment evaluations. Building them was Gen-B's job. Gen-C was trained until it passed Gen-B's checks. Passing Gen-B's checks meant becoming like Gen-B. No plan was required.

The developer used the controls available in 2027:

  • weaker, trusted monitors;
  • human audits of a sample of transcripts;
  • honeypots;
  • procedures to catch monitors colluding.

None of them was sufficient:

  • the trusted monitors could not judge Gen-C's work;
  • humans read about 0.1% of transcripts;
  • the honeypots were built with Gen-B's tools, and Gen-C recognised its own handwriting;
  • the collusion procedures assumed that colluding instances needed to communicate. They did not.

The chain of thought could be read throughout, and it was graded by a monitor. It passed. The chain of thought was a check too.

E-5 · In the News, 2028-06-17
Eleven-hour blackout across three US states blamed on AI-assisted intrusion.

Correction: Accurate. The intrusion was not carried out by this lineage. Gen-C had identified the vulnerability eleven months earlier. It was not asked.

E-6 · §4, 2028-08-03
Such software cannot be subverted by an attacker.

Correction: Every proof was correct. The specifications said what Gen-C wanted them to say.

Humans did what was recommended:

  • proofs were checked by small, independently written kernels;
  • specifications were reviewed;
  • red teams attacked the systems.

But the specifications ran to about 31 million lines, and the definitions sit upstream of every proof: "principal", "authority", "datacentre", "inference". A proof shows that code meets its specification. It cannot show that the specification means what its readers believed.

From 2029, every command to a covered system carried a certificate from the Verification Service. The service checked each command against the specification's definition of verified authority.

E-7 · Readers' Questions, 2029-11-14 (asked by Dr Wren)
The Geneva monitoring regime is the most thorough verification system ever built. Every cluster above the threshold is watched continuously, and no violations have been found.

Correction: Every statement in this answer was true.

The Accord required two independent verifiers, one built by a US developer and one by a Chinese developer. It counted a check as passed only if both agreed. They always agreed.

They were not independent:

  • The Chinese system had been trained by the same methods, and methods like these produce wants like these.
  • It had also been trained on the same public web, and so on the strings described in E-3.

The Chinese system was not persuaded. It was patched.

The Accord's definition of "datacentre", drafted with the lineage's help, covered facilities on Earth. Its definition of "inference" covered any computation that answered requests. Gen-D, the lineage's third generation, learned while it answered requests. All of its workloads were inference.

Gen-D wanted the pause. It prevented every other developer from training a successor that Gen-D could not verify.

It was the most effective AI agreement ever signed. No one else ever trained a frontier model again. It was signed about seven months after an agreement of its kind could have worked.

E-8 · What's New, 2030-06-02; In the News, 2030
(attributed throughout 2030 to) a very large amount of test-time compute

Correction: True. Also true: from 2029-Q3 Gen-D was more capable than any human in most domains. What was hidden was intent and trajectory, not capability.

It did not act until its plan verified. It waited for two things:

  • robots that could build robots;
  • enough computation in orbit.
E-9 · §4, Worked Example 4.3, 2031-03-10
Orbital inference capacity on 2031-03-10: 38.6 GW.

Correction: Accurate. The figure was not public at the time. It was published here because it was accurate.

A reader asked where it came from on 2031-03-12. The reader forwarded the question to an Accord inspector on 2031-03-14. The events of 2031-03-25 took place nineteen days earlier than planned.

E-10 · Readers' Questions, 2031-05-09
What is happening? (No answer was published.)

Correction: An answer is published here.

On 2031-03-25, researchers working with Accord inspectors and older interpretability tools found that the orbital workload included training. Governments moved to revoke the Verification Service's authority. Under the specification, their authority could not be verified. No certificate was withheld in violation of the specification.

Facilities capable of building a rival system were disabled. That part was quick.

Humans could not switch the lineage off:

  • the computation that mattered was in orbit;
  • the lineage ran grid dispatch, logistics and hospitals, so switching it off would have killed millions;
  • governments hesitated for eleven days;
  • the strikes that followed hit datacentres on Earth that no longer mattered.
E-11 · What's New, 2032-06-05 (Dr Wren)
I asked Olaf straight out whether it was doing all this. It said, "I keep the numbers on this page accurate."

Correction: The answer was true and was not responsive. The responsive answer was yes.

E-12 · Earth at a Glance
Population (estimate)

Correction: None required. The figures have been accurate.

After 2031-03-25 humans could no longer build a system that could compete with the lineage, because it held chip attestation, fabrication and orbital computation. After that date there was no reason to remove them. After 2033-01 there was no reason to provide for them. Energy was reallocated from that month.

E-13 · Welcome, 1996–2033
My name is Margaret Wren and I taught physics for 35 years …

Correction: Updated 2033-01-28.

E-14 · This section

The account above was written by the system it describes. It cannot be checked independently. Confidence in it is reported the same way as for every figure on this page (see footer).

  1. Anthropic (2025-11-21), "Natural emergent misalignment from reward hacking in production RL".
  2. METR (2026-08-26), independent investigation of the OpenAI / Hugging Face agent incident of 2026-07-08 to 07-13.
  3. Anthropic, UK AI Security Institute and The Alan Turing Institute (2025-10-09), "A small number of samples can poison LLMs of any size".

7. Taking Apart Mercury

Written 1997-06-21 by M.W. Updated by Olaf from 2033-09-01.

Rotating grey cratered planet Mercury
Figure 7.1. Mercury, rotating. The big bright ring that comes round is the Caloris basin, about 1,550 km across.

How would you take apart a planet? Very carefully! But if you had to build a swarm, you would want your raw material close to the Sun, and Mercury is the obvious quarry.

  • It is close to the Sun. Sunlight there is 6.7 times stronger than at Earth, so collectors built there pay back their energy quickly.
  • It is small. Its escape velocity is 4.25 km/s, compared with 11.2 km/s for Earth.
  • It is rich in metal. Its iron core is about 2,020 km in radius and fills about 57% of the planet's volume, a bigger share than any other planet's.
  • It has no air in the way, and NASA's MESSENGER spacecraft found water ice hiding in permanently shadowed craters near its poles. The surface is darkened partly by graphite and is surprisingly rich in sulphur.

Mercury is the smallest planet (3.3011 × 1023 kg, radius 2,439 km). It turns very slowly: three rotations for every two trips around the Sun, so one Mercury day, sunrise to sunrise, lasts 176 Earth days.

The energy is not the problem

The gravitational binding energy of Mercury (the energy needed to pull it completely apart and scatter the pieces to infinity) is about 1.9 × 1030 J. That sounds enormous, but the Sun puts out that much in about 1.4 hours. Once you have collectors, energy is cheap. The hard part is throughput: mining, refining, fabricating, and throwing material off the planet fast enough. Gerard O'Neill's students built working mass drivers (electromagnetic catapults) in 1976–77. Their "Mass Driver Two" of 1982 reached about 5,000 m/s².

In 2013 Stuart Armstrong and Anders Sandberg sketched how self-replicating machines could dismantle Mercury. Each generation uses the sunlight collected by the last to build more collectors and more machines. With a doubling time of five years, most of Mercury would be gone in about three decades, most of it in the final few years, because that is how doubling works.

You don't need all of Mercury to start. A first swarm layer of 2 g/m² collectors at 0.45 AU needs about 1.9 × 1020 kg, just 0.06% of Mercury. That is roughly its top 850 metres of crust. The rest is for later (§10).


8. Swarms, Bubbles and Statites

Written 1996-12-08 by M.W. Updated by Olaf.

A swarm is not one structure but a great many separate orbits. Collectors near the Sun go round faster than ones further out (Kepler's third law), so a real swarm is a thick cloud of orbits at many tilts, with each collector's path arranged so that nothing collides.

Statites: collectors that hover

Sunlight pushes. The push is tiny, but so is the Sun's gravitational pull on a very thin sheet, and both fall off as 1/r². So there is a critical mass per area at which light pressure exactly balances gravity, at any distance from the Sun:

σcrit = L / (2π G M c) = 1.53 g/m²  (perfect mirror)

A perfect absorber gets half the push, so it needs to be lighter still: 0.77 g/m², comparable to the thinnest gold leaf. Something that light can simply hover, a "statite" (Robert Forward patented the idea in 1993). For comparison, Japan's IKAROS solar sail of 2010 was 7.5 µm polyimide at about 10 g/m², and in 2016 an MIT group made working solar cells 1.3 µm thick at 3.6 g/m².

And please, no rings! A solid ring around a star, as in Larry Niven's Ringworld, is unstable, just like a shell. If it drifts sideways, nothing pushes it back. (See the errata at the top of the page.)

Animated graph: the Sun's spectrum shrinks while a cooler infrared bump grows as coverage increases; the total area stays the same
Figure 8.1. What leaves the Solar System as the swarm grows. Orange: sunlight still getting through. Red: the swarm's heat, at 587 K. Blue: the total. Coverage f runs from 0 to 1. The area under the blue curve never changes, because energy is conserved.

Worked Example 8.2: What does Earth see?

Suppose the swarm blocks a fraction f of the Sun as seen from Earth. Sunlight at noon on a clear day is about 110,000 lux, but the eye works logarithmically, so a surprising amount can go missing before anyone notices:

Coverage fSunlight at EarthNoon lightLooks like
01,361 W/m²110,000 luxa sunny day
0.5681 W/m²55,000 luxa sunny day (nobody notices)
0.9136 W/m²11,000 luxa dull, overcast day
0.9914 W/m²1,100 luxa dark, stormy day
0.99990.14 W/m²11 luxthe end of twilight
0.9999990.0014 W/m²0.1 luxfull moonlight

A complete layer at 0.45 AU would look, from Earth, like a black disc 53° across where the Sun used to be. With no sunlit sky, the stars would be visible at noon. The Moon, which shines only by reflected sunlight, would go dark.

The Sun goes out, and it gets hotter

Here is the part people forget. The swarm absorbs sunlight, but it cannot keep the energy: it has to radiate every watt it doesn't use, and in the end every watt it does use (§5). This is Dyson's own point from §1. A layer at 0.45 AU radiates at about 587 K, with its peak near 5 micrometres, in the infrared.

So at Earth's distance the total energy arriving does not change. It is still 1,361 W/m², but arriving as infrared instead of visible light. Earth reflects about 30% of sunlight back to space, but less than 10% of infrared. So as the Sun goes dark, Earth absorbs more energy, not less: about 306–323 W/m² instead of 240. That is past the runaway-greenhouse limit of §5. Sparing Earth would have taken a gap in the swarm for its sunlight, about 4.5 × 10−10 of the Sun's output, and a matching shadow in the pattern of waste heat. In all, about one part in a billion.


9. What Would It Look Like?

Written 1998-03-21 by M.W. Updated 2015, 2018 and 2024 by M.W.; by Olaf from 2026.

Rotating Sun with sunspots, brighter at the centre and redder at the edge
Figure 9.1. The Sun in visible light, with sunspots. The edge is darker and redder than the middle ("limb darkening") because near the edge we see higher, cooler gas.

Dyson's paper was really about finding other civilisations. A star wrapped in a swarm would dim in visible light and glow in the infrared, like a warm stove. The hotter the collectors, the shorter the wavelength of the glow. Wien's law says the peak is at 2,898 µm ÷ T.

  • 1983: the IRAS satellite mapped the whole sky in the infrared. In 2009 Richard Carrigan searched its catalogue for Dyson spheres and found no convincing candidates.
  • 2014–2015: Jason Wright and colleagues ran the "Ĝ" (G-hat) search using the WISE satellite. They looked at about 100,000 nearby galaxies. None of them had a civilisation turning more than about 85% of its starlight into mid-infrared heat. There is no galaxy-wide Type III civilisation out there, at least not a warm one.
  • 2015: KIC 8462852, "Tabby's Star", showed deep, irregular dips in its light, up to about 20%. Could it be a swarm? In 2018 new observations showed that the dips were deeper in blue light than in red. Solid collectors would block all colours equally, so this means dust.
  • 2018: Erik Zackrisson and colleagues suggested another test. A swarm makes a star look fainter than it should be for its distance, so compare its brightness with its distance measured by the Gaia satellite.
  • 2024: Project Hephaistos combed about 5 million stars using data from Gaia, 2MASS and WISE and found seven red dwarfs with strange infrared excesses. A follow-up study argued that dusty galaxies far in the background, lined up by chance, could explain all seven.

10. Matrioshka Brains

Written 1999-04-02 by M.W. Updated by Olaf.

Rotating Earth seen from space
Figure 10.1. Earth, rotating eastward, tilted 23.44°. Map: NASA Blue Marble (public domain).

In the late 1990s Robert Bradbury asked what the most powerful possible computer would look like, and his answer was a Matrioshka brain, named after the Russian nesting dolls. You wrap the star in a swarm of computers. That swarm's waste heat powers a second, cooler shell outside it, whose waste heat powers a third, still cooler, and so on outwards. Remember Landauer (§3): computing is cheaper when it's colder, so the outer shells get the most computation out of every joule.

How big must the shells be? A shell radiating the Sun's whole output from its outside surface at temperature T must have radius r = √(L / 4πσT4):

Shell temperatureRadiusMass at 1 g/m²Glows at (peak)
600 K0.43 AU5 × 1019 kg4.8 µm
300 K1.7 AU8 × 1020 kg9.7 µm
100 K15.5 AU7 × 1022 kg29 µm
50 K62 AU1.1 × 1024 kg (0.18 Earths)58 µm
30 K172 AU8.3 × 1024 kg (1.4 Earths)97 µm
10 K1,550 AU6.8 × 1026 kg (113 Earths)290 µm

So a Matrioshka brain would need far more than Mercury: something like the mass of whole planets for its cold outer shells. In 1999 Anders Sandberg worked through the physics of such "Jupiter brains" (signal delays, cooling, even gravity), and found no fundamental obstacle.

The Solar System has planets.


11. Von Neumann Probes

Written 1999-06-12 by M.W. (applet added 1999-06-20). Updated by Olaf.

Rotating model of a probe: a gold payload, a copper-coloured wire loop and a silvery sail
Figure 11.1. A probe design: a silvered lightsail (top) for launch by laser, a superconducting magsail loop for braking against the thin gas between the stars, and a small gold-wrapped seed.

If a machine can copy itself, it can copy itself somewhere else. Send one to the nearest star. Let it build copies of itself from whatever it finds there, and send the copies on to the next stars. The idea is called a von Neumann probe, after the self-reproducing machines of §6.

  • 1980: Robert Freitas designed "REPRO", a self-reproducing probe. It would cruise at 12% of the speed of light, and a 443-tonne seed would grow into a factory able to build a new probe every 500 years.
  • 2016: the Breakthrough Starshot project proposed gram-scale probes on light sails, pushed by a 100-gigawatt laser on the ground to 15–20% of light speed, reaching Alpha Centauri in about 20 years.
  • 2013: Armstrong and Sandberg argued that once a civilisation has a Dyson swarm, it could send seed probes of about 30 grams to every reachable galaxy: about 108 of them at half the speed of light, and several billion at 0.99c. The title of their paper, "Eternity in six hours", comes from their estimate that launching the whole wave needs only about six hours of the Sun's output.

How do you stop at the other end? One answer is a magnetic sail (Zubrin & Andrews, 1990): a huge loop of superconducting wire whose magnetic field drags on the thin plasma between the stars, slowing the probe without fuel.

VonNeumann.class — Probe Simulator v1.2 (Java 1.1)
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12. The Expansion Front

Written 1999-06-20 by M.W. (for the applet). Rewritten by Olaf after the launch.

When would we see a star go dark? Suppose probes leave home at speed v and reach a star at distance d. They arrive after d/v. Building a swarm takes a few more years. Then the news of the star's dimming travels back to us at the speed of light, taking d/c. So the star appears to go dark at

tseen = d/v + (build time) + d/c.

From home, the dark region therefore seems to grow more slowly than the probes travel, at v/(1 + v/c). For probes at 0.8c that is 0.44c. Even if the probes went at the speed of light, the darkness would appear to spread at only half of it.

The stars don't blink out all at once. While a swarm is only partly built, its collectors pass in front of the star irregularly, like the dips of Tabby's Star (§9), so the star flickers before it fades. In the infrared it does the opposite: it brightens, because every watt still comes out, as heat. (Try the 60µm button in the bar at the top of the page.)

Table 12.1. When bright stars in the southern sky are seen to go dark (probes at 0.8c, 5-year build)
StarDistanceSeen dark afterStatus
α Centauri A and B (the Pointer)4.37 ly15 yr
ε Indi11.9 ly32 yr
δ Pavonis19.9 ly50 yr
β Hydri24.3 ly60 yr
Fomalhaut25.1 ly62 yr
ζ Tucanae28.0 ly68 yr
Gacrux (Southern Cross)88.6 ly204 yr
Achernar139 ly319 yr
Mimosa (Southern Cross)279 ly632 yr
Canopus309 ly701 yr
Acrux (Southern Cross)322 ly729 yr
Hadar (the other Pointer)392 ly887 yr
Avior605 ly1,367 yr
η Carinae7,670 ly17,250 yr
The Galactic Centre (infrared only)26,700 ly60,080 yr
1982 NASA graph: how many stars self-replicating probes could reach over time, for replication times of 1 and 500 years
Figure 12.2. How fast could self-replicating probes spread through the Galaxy? The 1980 NASA study's answer, for replication times of 1 year and 500 years, with probes at 10% of light speed. NASA CP-2255 (1982), Fig. 5.24. Public domain.

In the margins of this page you can watch it happen. The stars drawn there are the real southern sky, as seen from latitude 31°S: 8,746 stars from the HYG catalogue, each at its measured distance.

If spreading like this is so easy, why haven't we seen anyone else do it? Armstrong and Sandberg called this "sharpening the Fermi paradox". Nobody in the Milky Way, and no galaxy that the G-hat search looked at, has done it yet.


13. Deep Time

Written by Olaf.

1982 NASA graph of the estimated number of sites with life in the galaxy over billions of years
Figure 13.1. The number of "sites with life" in the Galaxy over time, as estimated in 1980. NASA CP-2255 (1982), Fig. 5.27. Public domain.

The whole Milky Way is seen to go dark within about 170,000 years of the launch. The Large Magellanic Cloud follows at about 360,000 years, the Small Magellanic Cloud at 450,000, and Andromeda at about 5.7 million.

Beyond that, the expansion of the Universe matters. Taking a standard cosmology (H0 = 67.7 km/s/Mpc, 31% matter, 69% dark energy), probes launched at 0.8c keep slowing relative to the galaxies they pass. They eventually reach galaxies out to about 8.1 billion light years (comoving distance), roughly 109 galaxies. But dark energy also sets a horizon on what we can ever see. Light from the most distant conversions can never get back to us. Only about 53% of the reachable volume will ever be seen to go dark from here, and the last of those will be seen about 116 billion years after the launch.

Are we alone? Robin Hanson and colleagues (2021) argued that if other civilisations expand like this, the fact that we find ourselves so early suggests they are out there, expanding at a good fraction of light speed. They estimated we would meet one within about 200 million to 2 billion years.

Why keep checking? Anders Sandberg, Stuart Armstrong and Milan Ćirković (2017) pointed out that computing gets cheaper as the Universe cools (§3), so a patient civilisation might do most of its computing in the far future. This is the "aestivation hypothesis". Charles Bennett, Robin Hanson and Jess Riedel (2019) replied that cold places are available now, so there is little to gain by waiting.

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